Many SUVs and trucks sold today can run E85; how do these vehicles combat the change in blend problems and the availability problems? The answer is Flex Fuel. A Flex Fuel system automatically adjusts the vehicles tune based on changes in ethanol content. This means a person can fill up on E85 today, and midway through the week decide to put a half tank of regular unleaded fuel in and not worry about what will happen with the mixture of the fuels.
Why does this all matter? I have been slowly working on a flex fuel solution for any aftermarket tuning system that can make fuel and ignition timing changes based on a 0-5v input to the ecu. Neptune's tuning software, which is what I use for hondas, now has what they are calling, "sensor adjustments"
This adjustment uses a 0-5v input to make changes to fuel, timing, and boost solenoid duty cycle based on voltage. This could be used for Flex Fuel, if only the sensors would output a 0-5v signal, which they do not. Using the sensor adjustment, a turbo car could be setup to make lots of boost and power when the fuel lines had E85 in them, then be set to turn down the boost and power when traditional pump gas was being used.
Today I have a working prototype board that uses a flex fuel sensor in the return line of the fuel system on my Integra to output a 0-5v signal back to the Neptune ecu. This excites me, Flex Fuel is a reality for my car. Now I can have the benefits of E85, but still have the option of driving my car on a long road trip where E85 may not be available, or filling up at any gas station if necessary; I also no longer need to worry about blends of E85 as my tune adjusts all the settings when I fill up with E70 and turns everything back up when I fill up with E85.
For me this is great news, I felt the need to share and I hope that others out there feel the same. Any tuning system that can utilize a 0-5v input to make adjustments to the tune would be able to make the change to Flex Fuel. Depending on interest, there is potential for a production unit, even the possibly for a DIY project with instructions for those who want to tackel that task.
Video: car is running at idel, and the sensor is reading 82-83% ethanol, manuel tests showed roughly 80-85% ethanol. Lower left hand gauge is the Ethanol% the video quality on here is not great.
that is awesome... what sensor did you use to do that with? i am very interested.. would be nice for drag night to go fill up on e85 and when its time for work just use 91 without having to change the tune :)
ReplyDeleteThe sensor used for the first prototype looks like this http://www.partsgeek.com/assets/dimage/thumbn/4211-05180815-1204334.jpg I'm testing with other sensor options now.
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ReplyDeleteAre you still working on this prototype? This is exactly what I've been looking for!
ReplyDeleteAre you still working on this prototype? This is exactly what I've been looking for!
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